Upcoming UI Release

Hello all,

Two weeks ago we released the website feature and got a decent response. Though the module is still in its initial stages, we hope to add a lot more features soon.

In the meantime, documentation is one of the most lacking aspects of ERPNext and we thought to have a crack at it. Though Umair maintains excellent user guide (ERPNext User Manual: ERPNext Help (Blogs)), users often find ERPNext very complex and over-whelming. When we started the documentation we saw the app from the eyes of the user (I know we should do it more often ;)) and realized that we need to fix the navigation before we fix the documentation.

So with that objective, we started to fix the navigation in ERPNext:

  1. First up are the new “module” pages: Each module now has its own home page that lists all the major components of the module - the masters, transaction, setup, tools and reports. All of this on one screen. We hope this will provide a “map” of what the module contains and will help the user explore all the features


  1. We also thought that the user interface was too cluttered and there was too much navigation. Though the navigation is all good, its usually a distraction when you are working on something. So here is what we did:

a. we integrated the “page” look of the website in the app itself (so now you can also change fonts, background etc)
b. the left sidebar is gone and the modules appear on the top menu
c. the right sidebar (secondary links) is integrated in the page

  1. We also killed 2 “modules” - Knowledge Base and Analysis. Analysis is now a part of the modules and Knowledge Base becomes an “app”. So do “todo”, “calendar”, “messages”. We also realized that all these were also “broken” and kind of did a reworking of many of these apps.


  1. Setup: The setup page was so horrible that even the developers (like me) can get confused, so we had to redesign it. Now that all module-related setup is there in the module page, the setup page becomes a lot cleaner.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/setup

  1. Deskop: Finally, what to put on the homepage has always been an agonizing decision. The current “feed” page is ideal for an “app” but erpnext is more a “platform”. So we got inspired from all the smartphone and tablet UIs out there and decided to put a grid of “icons” on the desktop page. The icons are open source and supplied by the excellent Noun Project (thenounproject.com)


Hope you like it. We plan to release the new UI sometime next week. So please send in your feedback.

best regards,
Rushabh

Dear Rushabh.

The UI would be something I am looking forward to with a lot of eagerness and interest…

Thanks a lot your thoughtfulness.

Kind Regards,
Mahesh





On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Rushabh Mehta <rm…@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,



Two weeks ago we released the website feature and got a decent response. Though the module is still in its initial stages, we hope to add a lot more features soon.



In the meantime, documentation is one of the most lacking aspects of ERPNext and we thought to have a crack at it. Though Umair maintains excellent user guide (http://erpnext.blogspot.in/2011/03/erpnext-help.html), users often find ERPNext very complex and over-whelming. When we started the documentation we saw the app from the eyes of the user (I know we should do it more often ;)) and realized that we need to fix the navigation before we fix the documentation.

So with that objective, we started to fix the navigation in ERPNext:

1. First up are the new "module" pages: Each module now has its own home page that lists all the major components of the module - the masters, transaction, setup, tools and reports. All of this on *one* screen. We hope this will provide a "map" of what the module contains and will help the user explore all the features

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/module-home.png
http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/selling-home.png


2. We also thought that the user interface was too cluttered and there was too much navigation. Though the navigation is all good, its usually a distraction when you are working on something. So here is what we did:

a. we integrated the "page" look of the website in the app itself (so now you can also change fonts, background etc)
b. the left sidebar is gone and the modules appear on the top menu
c. the right sidebar (secondary links) is integrated in the page

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/form-view.png

3. We also killed 2 "modules" - Knowledge Base and Analysis. Analysis is now a part of the modules and Knowledge Base becomes an "app". So do "todo", "calendar", "messages". We also realized that all these were also "broken" and kind of did a reworking of many of these apps.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/calendar.png
http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/todo.png


4. Setup: The setup page was so horrible that even the developers (like me) can get confused, so we *had* to redesign it. Now that all module-related setup is there in the module page, the setup page becomes a lot cleaner.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/setup

4. Deskop: Finally, what to put on the homepage has always been an agonizing decision. The current "feed" page is ideal for an "app" but erpnext is more a "platform". So we got inspired from all the smartphone and tablet UIs out there and decided to put a grid of "icons" on the desktop page. The icons are open source and supplied by the excellent Noun Project (thenounproject.com)

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop1.jpg
http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop2.jpg

Hope you like it. We plan to release the new UI sometime next week. So please send in your feedback.

best regards,
Rushabh


Hey,
Finally the UI changes are kicking in. Looks really cool! :). This would definitely take the product get much vertical.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Mahesh <ma…@maheshengg.com> wrote:
Dear Rushabh.

The UI would be something I am looking forward to with a lot of eagerness and interest..

Thanks a lot your thoughtfulness.

Kind Regards,
Mahesh





On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Rushabh Mehta <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,



Two weeks ago we released the website feature and got a decent response. Though the module is still in its initial stages, we hope to add a lot more features soon.



In the meantime, documentation is one of the most lacking aspects of ERPNext and we thought to have a crack at it. Though Umair maintains excellent user guide (http://erpnext.blogspot.in/2011/03/erpnext-help.html), users often find ERPNext very complex and over-whelming. When we started the documentation we saw the app from the eyes of the user (I know we should do it more often ;)) and realized that we need to fix the navigation before we fix the documentation.


So with that objective, we started to fix the navigation in ERPNext:

1. First up are the new "module" pages: Each module now has its own home page that lists all the major components of the module - the masters, transaction, setup, tools and reports. All of this on *one* screen. We hope this will provide a "map" of what the module contains and will help the user explore all the features

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/module-home.png
http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/selling-home.png


2. We also thought that the user interface was too cluttered and there was too much navigation. Though the navigation is all good, its usually a distraction when you are working on something. So here is what we did:

a. we integrated the "page" look of the website in the app itself (so now you can also change fonts, background etc)
b. the left sidebar is gone and the modules appear on the top menu
c. the right sidebar (secondary links) is integrated in the page

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/form-view.png

3. We also killed 2 "modules" - Knowledge Base and Analysis. Analysis is now a part of the modules and Knowledge Base becomes an "app". So do "todo", "calendar", "messages". We also realized that all these were also "broken" and kind of did a reworking of many of these apps.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/calendar.png
http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/todo.png


4. Setup: The setup page was so horrible that even the developers (like me) can get confused, so we *had* to redesign it. Now that all module-related setup is there in the module page, the setup page becomes a lot cleaner.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/setup

4. Deskop: Finally, what to put on the homepage has always been an agonizing decision. The current "feed" page is ideal for an "app" but erpnext is more a "platform". So we got inspired from all the smartphone and tablet UIs out there and decided to put a grid of "icons" on the desktop page. The icons are open source and supplied by the excellent Noun Project (thenounproject.com)

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop1.jpg
http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop2.jpg

Hope you like it. We plan to release the new UI sometime next week. So please send in your feedback.

best regards,
Rushabh



Thanks Mahesh, Nigil

Link with screenshots in one page

https://www.erpnext.com/#!blog-view/upcoming-ui-updates

- Rushabh


On 25-Feb-2012, at 2:02 PM, nijil y wrote:

Hey,
Finally the UI changes are kicking in. Looks really cool! :). This would definitely take the product get much vertical.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Mahesh <ma...@maheshengg.com> wrote:
Dear Rushabh.

The UI would be something I am looking forward to with a lot of eagerness and interest..

Thanks a lot your thoughtfulness.

Kind Regards,
Mahesh





On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Rushabh Mehta <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,



Two weeks ago we released the website feature and got a decent response. Though the module is still in its initial stages, we hope to add a lot more features soon.



In the meantime, documentation is one of the most lacking aspects of ERPNext and we thought to have a crack at it. Though Umair maintains excellent user guide (http://erpnext.blogspot.in/2011/03/erpnext-help.html), users often find ERPNext very complex and over-whelming. When we started the documentation we saw the app from the eyes of the user (I know we should do it more often ;)) and realized that we need to fix the navigation before we fix the documentation.


So with that objective, we started to fix the navigation in ERPNext:

1. First up are the new "module" pages: Each module now has its own home page that lists all the major components of the module - the masters, transaction, setup, tools and reports. All of this on *one* screen. We hope this will provide a "map" of what the module contains and will help the user explore all the features

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/module-home.png
http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/selling-home.png


2. We also thought that the user interface was too cluttered and there was too much navigation. Though the navigation is all good, its usually a distraction when you are working on something. So here is what we did:

a. we integrated the "page" look of the website in the app itself (so now you can also change fonts, background etc)
b. the left sidebar is gone and the modules appear on the top menu
c. the right sidebar (secondary links) is integrated in the page

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/form-view.png

3. We also killed 2 "modules" - Knowledge Base and Analysis. Analysis is now a part of the modules and Knowledge Base becomes an "app". So do "todo", "calendar", "messages". We also realized that all these were also "broken" and kind of did a reworking of many of these apps.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/calendar.png
http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/todo.png


4. Setup: The setup page was so horrible that even the developers (like me) can get confused, so we *had* to redesign it. Now that all module-related setup is there in the module page, the setup page becomes a lot cleaner.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/setup

4. Deskop: Finally, what to put on the homepage has always been an agonizing decision. The current "feed" page is ideal for an "app" but erpnext is more a "platform". So we got inspired from all the smartphone and tablet UIs out there and decided to put a grid of "icons" on the desktop page. The icons are open source and supplied by the excellent Noun Project (thenounproject.com)

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop1.jpg
http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop2.jpg

Hope you like it. We plan to release the new UI sometime next week. So please send in your feedback.

best regards,
Rushabh




Looks Cool!

However!!! Documentation!!! The new “module home page” should also
have a “documentation section”. There is eg room for this left of the
column “reports”.

Documentation could be standardized to a certain extent by taking the
record (docform) and transaction as a basis.

A table with all fieldnames, and their meaning/function/use, user-
defined or system generated or copied from other doc, formview setting
(hidden, print etc), accessable/modified by>transactions (in other
words wich transactions do change the record).
Well, something like this, has be worked out.

Similar for transactions: reversible/irreversible, changes tables
(table.fieldname)

Once these fundamental descriptions are done, I believe the
descriptions of the “how-to” & “cookbooks” are much easier to prepare.
In the present “how-to” (mainly in the blogs) there are to many "loose
ends= not decribed parts of input screen).

Once table and transactions are done: an in-depth discussion of the
Form View Editor. And the same for the tax forms.

At the end of the process a context sensitive help would of course be
the ultimate.

Anyway, as Rushabh said before the revamping of the interface was with
better documentation in mind!

Just move on , rgds robert

On Feb 25, 8:54 am, Rushabh Mehta rm...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all,

Two weeks ago we released the website feature and got a decent response. Though the module is still in its initial stages, we hope to add a lot more features soon.

In the meantime, documentation is one of the most lacking aspects of ERPNext and we thought to have a crack at it. Though Umair maintains excellent user guide (http://erpnext.blogspot.in/2011/03/erpnext-help.html), users often find ERPNext very complex and over-whelming. When we started the documentation we saw the app from the eyes of the user (I know we should do it more often ;)) and realized that we need to fix the navigation before we fix the documentation.

So with that objective, we started to fix the navigation in ERPNext:

  1. First up are the new “module” pages: Each module now has its own home page that lists all the major components of the module - the masters, transaction, setup, tools and reports. All of this on one screen. We hope this will provide a “map” of what the module contains and will help the user explore all the features

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/module-home.pnghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/selling-home.png

  1. We also thought that the user interface was too cluttered and there was too much navigation. Though the navigation is all good, its usually a distraction when you are working on something. So here is what we did:

a. we integrated the “page” look of the website in the app itself (so now you can also change fonts, background etc)
b. the left sidebar is gone and the modules appear on the top menu
c. the right sidebar (secondary links) is integrated in the page

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/form-view.png

  1. We also killed 2 “modules” - Knowledge Base and Analysis. Analysis is now a part of the modules and Knowledge Base becomes an “app”. So do “todo”, “calendar”, “messages”. We also realized that all these were also “broken” and kind of did a reworking of many of these apps.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/calendar.pnghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/todo.png

  1. Setup: The setup page was so horrible that even the developers (like me) can get confused, so we had to redesign it. Now that all module-related setup is there in the module page, the setup page becomes a lot cleaner.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/setup

  1. Deskop: Finally, what to put on the homepage has always been an agonizing decision. The current “feed” page is ideal for an “app” but erpnext is more a “platform”. So we got inspired from all the smartphone and tablet UIs out there and decided to put a grid of “icons” on the desktop page. The icons are open source and supplied by the excellent Noun Project (thenounproject.com)

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop1.jpghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop2.jpg

Hope you like it. We plan to release the new UI sometime next week. So please send in your feedback.

best regards,
Rushabh

Hi Robert,

Replies below:

On 25-Feb-2012, at 7:11 PM, robert wrote:

Looks Cool!

Thanks!

However!!! Documentation!!! The new “module home page” should also
have a “documentation section”. There is eg room for this left of the
column “reports”.

Documentation could be standardized to a certain extent by taking the
record (docform) and transaction as a basis.

A table with all fieldnames, and their meaning/function/use, user-
defined or system generated or copied from other doc, formview setting
(hidden, print etc), accessable/modified by>transactions (in other
words wich transactions do change the record).
Well, something like this, has be worked out.

Similar for transactions: reversible/irreversible, changes tables
(table.fieldname)

We have done this before - thanks for reminding. What we need to do though, is to update the field descriptions first. We have this on the agenda too, before that we need to work a bit on the back-end so that we can push these field updates.

Once these fundamental descriptions are done, I believe the
descriptions of the “how-to” & “cookbooks” are much easier to prepare.
In the present “how-to” (mainly in the blogs) there are to many "loose
ends= not decribed parts of input screen).

Once table and transactions are done: an in-depth discussion of the
Form View Editor. And the same for the tax forms.

At the end of the process a context sensitive help would of course be
the ultimate.

Anyway, as Rushabh said before the revamping of the interface was with
better documentation in mind!

Thanks again for your feedback really appreciate :slight_smile:

Just move on , rgds robert

On Feb 25, 8:54 am, Rushabh Mehta rm...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all,

Two weeks ago we released the website feature and got a decent response. Though the module is still in its initial stages, we hope to add a lot more features soon.

In the meantime, documentation is one of the most lacking aspects of ERPNext and we thought to have a crack at it. Though Umair maintains excellent user guide (http://erpnext.blogspot.in/2011/03/erpnext-help.html), users often find ERPNext very complex and over-whelming. When we started the documentation we saw the app from the eyes of the user (I know we should do it more often ;)) and realized that we need to fix the navigation before we fix the documentation.

So with that objective, we started to fix the navigation in ERPNext:

  1. First up are the new “module” pages: Each module now has its own home page that lists all the major components of the module - the masters, transaction, setup, tools and reports. All of this on one screen. We hope this will provide a “map” of what the module contains and will help the user explore all the features

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/module-home.pnghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/selling-home.png

  1. We also thought that the user interface was too cluttered and there was too much navigation. Though the navigation is all good, its usually a distraction when you are working on something. So here is what we did:

a. we integrated the “page” look of the website in the app itself (so now you can also change fonts, background etc)
b. the left sidebar is gone and the modules appear on the top menu
c. the right sidebar (secondary links) is integrated in the page

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/form-view.png

  1. We also killed 2 “modules” - Knowledge Base and Analysis. Analysis is now a part of the modules and Knowledge Base becomes an “app”. So do “todo”, “calendar”, “messages”. We also realized that all these were also “broken” and kind of did a reworking of many of these apps.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/calendar.pnghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/todo.png

  1. Setup: The setup page was so horrible that even the developers (like me) can get confused, so we had to redesign it. Now that all module-related setup is there in the module page, the setup page becomes a lot cleaner.

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/setup

  1. Deskop: Finally, what to put on the homepage has always been an agonizing decision. The current “feed” page is ideal for an “app” but erpnext is more a “platform”. So we got inspired from all the smartphone and tablet UIs out there and decided to put a grid of “icons” on the desktop page. The icons are open source and supplied by the excellent Noun Project (thenounproject.com)

http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop1.jpghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop2.jpg

Hope you like it. We plan to release the new UI sometime next week. So please send in your feedback.

best regards,
Rushabh

Hi Rushabh,


The new UI updates are really great and I think that that now the focus should shift towards the functionality aspect since that is the one which matters the most. The UI features have added a lot more sense to the things now, and I feel now it is easier to find the things like Reports since they are arranged alphabetically.

The one thing which I think has created more problem is the width of the working area, I can understand this has been done to accommodate people using smaller screens but what about people using large screens of DESKTOP. Also the small work area hinders the data entry procedure like if we want to put data in a table of item then there is a lot of use of the mouse which is in general considered to be a much slower method than the use of a keyboard.

Therefore my request is that there should be an option to increase the WORK AREA which I think has been reduced since this UI update.

On Monday, February 27, 2012 10:37:10 AM UTC+5:30, Rushabh Mehta wrote:
Hi Robert,

Replies below:

On 25-Feb-2012, at 7:11 PM, robert wrote:

> Looks Cool!
>

Thanks!

> However!!! Documentation!!!  The new “module home page” should also
> have a “documentation section”. There is eg room for this left of the
> column “reports”.
>
> Documentation could be standardized to a certain extent by taking the
> record (docform) and transaction as a basis.
>
> A table with all fieldnames, and their meaning/function/use, user-
> defined or system generated or copied from other doc, formview setting
> (hidden, print etc), accessable/modified by>transactions (in other
> words wich transactions do change the record).
> Well, something like this, has be worked out.
>
> Similar for transactions: reversible/irreversible, changes tables
> (table.fieldname)

We have done this before - thanks for reminding. What we need to do though, is to update the field descriptions first. We have this on the agenda too, before that we need to work a bit on the back-end so that we can push these field updates.

> Once these fundamental descriptions are done, I believe the
> descriptions of the “how-to” & “cookbooks” are much easier to prepare.
> In the present “how-to” (mainly in the blogs) there are to many "loose
> ends= not decribed parts of input screen).
>
> Once table and transactions are done: an in-depth discussion of the
> Form View Editor. And the same for the tax forms.
>
> At the end of the process a context sensitive help would of course be
> the ultimate.
>
> Anyway, as Rushabh said before the revamping of the interface was with
> better documentation in mind!
>

Thanks again for your feedback really appreciate :slight_smile:

> Just move on , rgds robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 25, 8:54 am, Rushabh Mehta <rm…@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Two weeks ago we released the website feature and got a decent response. Though the module is still in its initial stages, we hope to add a lot more features soon.
>>
>> In the meantime, documentation is one of the most lacking aspects of ERPNext and we thought to have a crack at it. Though Umair maintains excellent user guide (http://erpnext.blogspot.in/2011/03/erpnext-help.html), users often find ERPNext very complex and over-whelming. When we started the documentation we saw the app from the eyes of the user (I know we should do it more often ;)) and realized that we need to fix the navigation before we fix the documentation.
>>
>> So with that objective, we started to fix the navigation in ERPNext:
>>
>> 1. First up are the new “module” pages: Each module now has its own home page that lists all the major components of the module - the masters, transaction, setup, tools and reports. All of this on one screen. We hope this will provide a “map” of what the module contains and will help the user explore all the features
>>
>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/module-home.pnghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/selling-home.png
>>
>> 2. We also thought that the user interface was too cluttered and there was too much navigation. Though the navigation is all good, its usually a distraction when you are working on something. So here is what we did:
>>
>> a. we integrated the “page” look of the website in the app itself (so now you can also change fonts, background etc)
>> b. the left sidebar is gone and the modules appear on the top menu
>> c. the right sidebar (secondary links) is integrated in the page
>>
>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/form-view.png
>>
>> 3. We also killed 2 “modules” - Knowledge Base and Analysis. Analysis is now a part of the modules and Knowledge Base becomes an “app”. So do “todo”, “calendar”, “messages”. We also realized that all these were also “broken” and kind of did a reworking of many of these apps.
>>
>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/calendar.pnghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/todo.png
>>
>> 4. Setup: The setup page was so horrible that even the developers (like me) can get confused, so we had to redesign it. Now that all module-related setup is there in the module page, the setup page becomes a lot cleaner.
>>
>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/setup
>>
>> 4. Deskop: Finally, what to put on the homepage has always been an agonizing decision. The current “feed” page is ideal for an “app” but erpnext is more a “platform”. So we got inspired from all the smartphone and tablet UIs out there and decided to put a grid of “icons” on the desktop page. The icons are open source and supplied by the excellent Noun Project (thenounproject.com)
>>
>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop1.jpghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop2.jpg
>>
>> Hope you like it. We plan to release the new UI sometime next week. So please send in your feedback.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Rushabh

Hi Aditya,

Thanks again - will do something about the screen size for large screens soon

best,
Rushabh


On 02-Mar-2012, at 6:46 PM, Aditya Duggal wrote:

Hi Rushabh,

The new UI updates are really great and I think that that now the focus should shift towards the functionality aspect since that is the one which matters the most. The UI features have added a lot more sense to the things now, and I feel now it is easier to find the things like Reports since they are arranged alphabetically.

The one thing which I think has created more problem is the width of the working area, I can understand this has been done to accommodate people using smaller screens but what about people using large screens of DESKTOP. Also the small work area hinders the data entry procedure like if we want to put data in a table of item then there is a lot of use of the mouse which is in general considered to be a much slower method than the use of a keyboard.

Therefore my request is that there should be an option to increase the WORK AREA which I think has been reduced since this UI update.

On Monday, February 27, 2012 10:37:10 AM UTC+5:30, Rushabh Mehta wrote:
Hi Robert,

Replies below:

On 25-Feb-2012, at 7:11 PM, robert wrote:

> Looks Cool!
>

Thanks!

> However!!!! Documentation!!!  The new "module home page" should also
> have a "documentation section". There is eg room for this left of the
> column "reports".
>
> Documentation could be standardized to a certain extent by taking the
> record (docform) and transaction as a basis.
>
> A table with all fieldnames, and their meaning/function/use, user-
> defined or system generated or copied from other doc, formview setting
> (hidden, print etc), accessable/modified by>transactions (in other
> words wich transactions do change the record).
> Well, something like this, has be worked out.
>
> Similar for transactions: reversible/irreversible, changes tables
> (table.fieldname)

We have done this before - thanks for reminding. What we need to do though, is to update the field descriptions first. We have this on the agenda too, before that we need to work a bit on the back-end so that we can push these field updates.

> Once these fundamental descriptions are done, I believe the
> descriptions of the "how-to" & "cookbooks" are much easier to prepare.
> In the present "how-to" (mainly in the blogs) there are to many "loose
> ends= not decribed parts of input screen).
>
> Once table and transactions are done: an in-depth discussion of the
> Form View Editor. And the same for the tax forms.
>
> At the end of the process a context sensitive help would of course be
> the ultimate.
>
> Anyway, as Rushabh said before the revamping of the interface was with
> better documentation in mind!
>

Thanks again for your feedback really appreciate :)

> Just move on , rgds robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 25, 8:54 am, Rushabh Mehta <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Two weeks ago we released the website feature and got a decent response. Though the module is still in its initial stages, we hope to add a lot more features soon.
>>
>> In the meantime, documentation is one of the most lacking aspects of ERPNext and we thought to have a crack at it. Though Umair maintains excellent user guide (http://erpnext.blogspot.in/2011/03/erpnext-help.html), users often find ERPNext very complex and over-whelming. When we started the documentation we saw the app from the eyes of the user (I know we should do it more often ;)) and realized that we need to fix the navigation before we fix the documentation.
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>> So with that objective, we started to fix the navigation in ERPNext:
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>> 1. First up are the new "module" pages: Each module now has its own home page that lists all the major components of the module - the masters, transaction, setup, tools and reports. All of this on *one* screen. We hope this will provide a "map" of what the module contains and will help the user explore all the features
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>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/module-home.pnghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/selling-home.png
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>> 2. We also thought that the user interface was too cluttered and there was too much navigation. Though the navigation is all good, its usually a distraction when you are working on something. So here is what we did:
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>> a. we integrated the "page" look of the website in the app itself (so now you can also change fonts, background etc)
>> b. the left sidebar is gone and the modules appear on the top menu
>> c. the right sidebar (secondary links) is integrated in the page
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>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/form-view.png
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>> 3. We also killed 2 "modules" - Knowledge Base and Analysis. Analysis is now a part of the modules and Knowledge Base becomes an "app". So do "todo", "calendar", "messages". We also realized that all these were also "broken" and kind of did a reworking of many of these apps.
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>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/calendar.pnghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/todo.png
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>> 4. Setup: The setup page was so horrible that even the developers (like me) can get confused, so we *had* to redesign it. Now that all module-related setup is there in the module page, the setup page becomes a lot cleaner.
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>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/setup
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>> 4. Deskop: Finally, what to put on the homepage has always been an agonizing decision. The current "feed" page is ideal for an "app" but erpnext is more a "platform". So we got inspired from all the smartphone and tablet UIs out there and decided to put a grid of "icons" on the desktop page. The icons are open source and supplied by the excellent Noun Project (thenounproject.com)
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>> http://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop1.jpghttp://frappe.erpnext.com/files/desktop2.jpg
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>> Hope you like it. We plan to release the new UI sometime next week. So please send in your feedback.
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>> best regards,
>> Rushabh