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Hi,

Our company is multilingual and we have a e-commerce site in 3 languages can we setup Erpnext to handle this ?

For products we need at least a way to enter multilingual descriptions and so on, could we do this with custom fields ?

Also we like to know if there is a way to handle products like T-shirts, they come in sizes and colors, without the need of entering every variable of the product (e.g. size M, Color blue). This product should be visable as 1 product on the website but should be separate products on the admin side.

Any suggestions and/or pointers are welcome .



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Hi Tom,

Webshop is still being developed and Multi-lingual webshop/website is in our to-do list. 

ERPNext handles stock ledger against item code. Hence, each variant needs to have a different item code. 

The current webshop is very basic and doesn't handle variants. We will think of a way to manage this in webshop, and implement it in the coming days.

We've created issues #621 and #622 on github.

Thanks,
Anand.

On 20-Jul-2013, at 3:33 PM, Tom Arnst <to...@e-tukku.fi> wrote:

Hi,

Our company is multilingual and we have a e-commerce site in 3 languages can we setup Erpnext to handle this ?

For products we need at least a way to enter multilingual descriptions and so on, could we do this with custom fields ?

Also we like to know if there is a way to handle products like T-shirts, they come in sizes and colors, without the need of entering every variable of the product (e.g. size M, Color blue). This product should be visable as 1 product on the website but should be separate products on the admin side.

Any suggestions and/or pointers are welcome .



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Hi Anand,

"ERPNext handles stock ledger against item code. Hence, each variant needs to have a different item code. "

I understand the logic, but could there be something like :

a
master product like T-shirt with all the details (price, description
and-so-on) let say item code T01 and a option to give variables to it
(color + size). Than auto generate the child product with item code
T01+(color code)+(size code).

This way we don’t need to input
every time the non-variable details. You can imagine that when we have
one kind of T-shirt available in 20 colors and 5 sizes we have 100
products(variable) and a lot of same data to input in the system.


On Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:03:31 PM UTC+3, Tom Arnst wrote:

Hi,

Our company is multilingual and we have a e-commerce site in 3 languages can we setup Erpnext to handle this ?

For products we need at least a way to enter multilingual descriptions and so on, could we do this with custom fields ?

Also we like to know if there is a way to handle products like T-shirts, they come in sizes and colors, without the need of entering every variable of the product (e.g. size M, Color blue). This product should be visable as 1 product on the website but should be separate products on the admin side.

Any suggestions and/or pointers are welcome .



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Tom,

You will always get better idea of sales, profitability if you create separate Items.

Also you can always use the bulk upload / update tool to update many items at the same time.

best,
Rushabh


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On 22-Jul-2013, at 2:15 PM, Tom Arnst <To...@e-tukku.fi> wrote:

Hi Anand,

"ERPNext handles stock ledger against item code. Hence, each variant needs to have a different item code. "

I understand the logic, but could there be something like :

a master product like T-shirt with all the details (price, description and-so-on) let say item code T01 and a option to give variables to it (color + size). Than auto generate the child product with item code T01+(color code)+(size code).

This way we don't need to input every time the non-variable details. You can imagine that when we have one kind of T-shirt available in 20 colors and 5 sizes we have 100 products(variable) and a lot of same data to input in the system.


On Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:03:31 PM UTC+3, Tom Arnst wrote:
Hi,

Our company is multilingual and we have a e-commerce site in 3 languages can we setup Erpnext to handle this ?

For products we need at least a way to enter multilingual descriptions and so on, could we do this with custom fields ?

Also we like to know if there is a way to handle products like T-shirts, they come in sizes and colors, without the need of entering every variable of the product (e.g. size M, Color blue). This product should be visable as 1 product on the website but should be separate products on the admin side.

Any suggestions and/or pointers are welcome .



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Hi Tom,

I deeply agree with Rushabh, I think creating Item Codes is imperative. I know it took me like 2 years to listen to Rushabh on the same thing. I think it is very easy to create item codes for Shirt just jot down the variables and we can surely come up with a New Item Coding structure for Apparel Industry easily where you would not need to create an item code but just enter the variables.



On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Rushabh Mehta <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Tom,

You will always get better idea of sales, profitability if you create separate Items.

Also you can always use the bulk upload / update tool to update many items at the same time.

best,
Rushabh

On 22-Jul-2013, at 2:15 PM, Tom Arnst <To...@e-tukku.fi> wrote:

Hi Anand,

"ERPNext handles stock ledger against item code. Hence, each variant needs to have a different item code. "


I understand the logic, but could there be something like :

a
master product like T-shirt with all the details (price, description
and-so-on) let say item code T01 and a option to give variables to it
(color + size). Than auto generate the child product with item code
T01+(color code)+(size code).

This way we don’t need to input
every time the non-variable details. You can imagine that when we have
one kind of T-shirt available in 20 colors and 5 sizes we have 100
products(variable) and a lot of same data to input in the system.


On Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:03:31 PM UTC+3, Tom Arnst wrote:

Hi,

Our company is multilingual and we have a e-commerce site in 3 languages can we setup Erpnext to handle this ?

For products we need at least a way to enter multilingual descriptions and so on, could we do this with custom fields ?


Also we like to know if there is a way to handle products like T-shirts, they come in sizes and colors, without the need of entering every variable of the product (e.g. size M, Color blue). This product should be visable as 1 product on the website but should be separate products on the admin side.


Any suggestions and/or pointers are welcome .




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Rushabh and Addy,

I’m not arguing the need of having separate items…!

What I need is, a way of non repeating editing the use of bulk upload won’t solve this.

To give an idea we use Magento for our e-commerce site, in Magento we have a system to create a so called "Configurable Product " this is a kind of a Parent for Child products. This way Magento can show on the front side (store pages) the parent with the child items as options by selecting the option(s) the user selects the Child product in the database.

We extended this with a small script (for the admin) so we are able to enter the options we need on the Parent item and this will auto create the Child(s) item for this.

So there are also separate items involved! There is only one Parent that will act as a template for editing and visibility on the front-end pages.

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:03:31 PM UTC+3, Tom Arnst wrote:

Hi,

Our company is multilingual and we have a e-commerce site in 3 languages can we setup Erpnext to handle this ?

For products we need at least a way to enter multilingual descriptions and so on, could we do this with custom fields ?

Also we like to know if there is a way to handle products like T-shirts, they come in sizes and colors, without the need of entering every variable of the product (e.g. size M, Color blue). This product should be visable as 1 product on the website but should be separate products on the admin side.

Any suggestions and/or pointers are welcome .



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I guess Rushabh what tom is saying that its high time we have the item variant thing that you had proposed a long time ago....

Well tom..I actually got to this he hard way by writing a code almost 1000 lines long...and I am sure not every user is going to do the same... So maybe Rushabh would get this into the future plans of ERPNEXT as of now. I don't think there is anything similar to this kind of thing in ERPNEXT

On 23 Jul 2013 18:11, "Tom Arnst" <to...@e-tukku.fi> wrote:
Rushabh and Addy,

I'm not arguing the need of having separate items..!

What I need is, a way of non repeating editing the use of bulk upload won't solve this.

To give an idea we use Magento for our e-commerce site, in Magento we have a system to create a so called "Configurable Product " this is a kind of a Parent for Child products. This way Magento can show on the front side (store pages) the parent with the child items as options by selecting the option(s) the user selects the Child product in the database.

We extended this with a small script (for the admin) so we are able to enter the options we need on the Parent item and this will auto create the Child(s) item for this.

So there are also separate items involved! There is only one Parent that will act as a template for editing and visibility on the front-end pages.

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:03:31 PM UTC+3, Tom Arnst wrote:
Hi,

Our company is multilingual and we have a e-commerce site in 3 languages can we setup Erpnext to handle this ?

For products we need at least a way to enter multilingual descriptions and so on, could we do this with custom fields ?

Also we like to know if there is a way to handle products like T-shirts, they come in sizes and colors, without the need of entering every variable of the product (e.g. size M, Color blue). This product should be visable as 1 product on the website but should be separate products on the admin side.

Any suggestions and/or pointers are welcome .



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Addy,

I would strongly advise to look at this. When ERPnext want to be able to serve a decent e-commerce solution this is the only way…! I also wonder if ERPnext (real time) users wouldn’t support a Parent/Child feature.

For now it would be a very time consuming thing to use ERPnext when you have a lot of products with variable options e.g clothing, shoes,…
Not to mention that the product pages ERPnext will need at the front-end are way to many for visitors to browse trough or even find what they need. We have in Magento more than 25.000 items (variable) and this grows fast. I can’t imagine to present visitors pages and pages all with same kind of items only because the color or size is different .


On Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:03:31 PM UTC+3, Tom Arnst wrote:

Hi,

Our company is multilingual and we have a e-commerce site in 3 languages can we setup Erpnext to handle this ?

For products we need at least a way to enter multilingual descriptions and so on, could we do this with custom fields ?

Also we like to know if there is a way to handle products like T-shirts, they come in sizes and colors, without the need of entering every variable of the product (e.g. size M, Color blue). This product should be visable as 1 product on the website but should be separate products on the admin side.

Any suggestions and/or pointers are welcome .



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Tom,

You are right - we will need to group products for the website.

Can you point us to some help pages on Magento on this. Maybe we can use the Item Group for this. All the items under the Item Group become variants.

Please add your comments here:

https://github.com/webnotes/erpnext/issues/622

Aditya, I think your issue was more with automatic codification based on properties.

best,
Rushabh


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On 23-Jul-2013, at 6:33 PM, Aditya Duggal <ad...@rigpl.com> wrote:

I guess Rushabh what tom is saying that its high time we have the item variant thing that you had proposed a long time ago....

Well tom..I actually got to this he hard way by writing a code almost 1000 lines long...and I am sure not every user is going to do the same... So maybe Rushabh would get this into the future plans of ERPNEXT as of now. I don't think there is anything similar to this kind of thing in ERPNEXT

On 23 Jul 2013 18:11, "Tom Arnst" <to...@e-tukku.fi> wrote:
Rushabh and Addy,

I'm not arguing the need of having separate items..!

What I need is, a way of non repeating editing the use of bulk upload won't solve this.

To give an idea we use Magento for our e-commerce site, in Magento we have a system to create a so called "Configurable Product " this is a kind of a Parent for Child products. This way Magento can show on the front side (store pages) the parent with the child items as options by selecting the option(s) the user selects the Child product in the database.

We extended this with a small script (for the admin) so we are able to enter the options we need on the Parent item and this will auto create the Child(s) item for this.

So there are also separate items involved! There is only one Parent that will act as a template for editing and visibility on the front-end pages.

On Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:03:31 PM UTC+3, Tom Arnst wrote:
Hi,

Our company is multilingual and we have a e-commerce site in 3 languages can we setup Erpnext to handle this ?

For products we need at least a way to enter multilingual descriptions and so on, could we do this with custom fields ?

Also we like to know if there is a way to handle products like T-shirts, they come in sizes and colors, without the need of entering every variable of the product (e.g. size M, Color blue). This product should be visable as 1 product on the website but should be separate products on the admin side.

Any suggestions and/or pointers are welcome .



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What’s the current status on this? Has anyone created a multilingual website with ERPNext? If so, how is the translation workflow managed?

@limehalves: I have done the brief research on multi-lingual sites backed by Frappe/ERP Next recently. Unfortunately I could not find any references to such sites to exist yet.

it looks like the well-formed multi-lingual site capability is still under development / in to-do list with core team at Frappe (see the respective discussion per Multilanguage page).

For now, IMHO there is only a surrogate way to build multi-lingual sites as follows

  • build individual pages for every language variation of the same content manually
  • develop custom scripts/logic to collate navigation menus for every language variation separately, knowing which page is in what language explicitly

Thank you.

George